When I talk to James Mercer ahead of the release of ‘Port Of Morrow’, we barely mention The Shins.
We don't go into detail about the new album, and we barely touch on the end of their deal with Sub Pop. What we talk about, for the most part, is the gap between 2007's ‘Wincing The Night Away’, and the new record. Two important things happened in the intervening years: Heath Ledger died, and Mercer founded Broken Bells with producer Brian Burton (aka Danger Mouse). As he explains it, one thing is inextricably linked to the other, and those things together took him away from his acclaimed indie rock group — and eventually back to it. But the story starts a bit earlier, in high school.
“I am somebody who is a fucking late bloomer. Like, fucking late,” Mercer laughs. “I was very shy in high school, then in my twenties I really locked down with a few very close friends. I held on tight to that small social group, which was my original band Flake, and the few people around us who I was able to relate to. In my thirties, I got signed — and suddenly I had to do things like this, have interviews like this, and it was terrifying. It's social anxiety — I don't know why some people have it and some don't.”
Mercer got used to his crippling fear of interviews, but he never got over it. At first, he says, he couldn't feel his fingers. But after ‘Oh, Inverted World’ was released in 2001, and he was forced to stare down music journalists in every corner of the globe, the numb terror subsided to an intense discomfort; he figured he was doing fine. Then, in 2008, Heath Ledger overdosed on pain medication and left a sea of bewildered friends to mourn him. Mercer wasn't one of them.
“I was asked to go and sing at [Heath's] memorial service in LA,” he explains. “I went down and they had me sing a Neil Young song. Sitting in the audience and watching these people who were very close to Heath, what was revealed to me was that this person had lived so full-on, and really emotionally engaged a lot of people around him. He was very present, and they were very affected by his passing. I realised at that moment that my memorial service, if I was to have one, would not have felt that way, because I was so closed off. It was really disturbing. I was upset being there.
“When I started playing in the band and we were signed, I became challenged by new social engagements — and that was good for me,” Mercer continues. “Some people look at life and they kind of see it as a wonderful, fascinating thing to explore, almost as if they were in a video game or something: 'This is your avatar, this is the world we've created for you; go, explore, and enjoy yourself.' I realised it was much more than a game to me — way too much. I realised I really needed to figure this thing out and learn to open up.”
When Mercer got home from LA, a friend called and invited him to go to Chile, hike through the wilderness of Patagonia and maybe make some music. He would have said no before Ledger's funeral, but he decided to say yes — and that made all the difference.
“It was almost like setting a match to a bunch of dry grass where each blade sets light to the next,” he muses. “It was like a prod to me — don't live your life [so] filled with fear and inside of yourself that you forget to actually experience life; you've got to break out of that … I wanted to connect with people, and you see people around you that do — they're comfortable with other people and they have a charismatic way about them, like Heath — and you want that; but for whatever reason it doesn't come naturally to you, and you have to practice.
“Honestly, it's something that I wish someone had told me in my past. You feel that fear, you feel that push to introvert, but the thing you need to understand is that… it is unhealthy to close yourself off from other human beings; you are a social creature and that's in your genetics … Saying yes to things and going and doing things… It's uncomfortable at first, but you just get better.”
When Mercer got back from Chile, Burton asked him to start a band, and he said yes again. He wasn't sure if he wanted to make another Shins record, and this was an opportunity to step outside that world, and see if he coped. Touring the world with Broken Bells, off the back of their self-titled 2010 album, Mercer found he did just fine. More than that, he realised that the world is filled with kind, talented people who are worth getting to know.
“I feel like there was a dependence that I had on the social side of [having] my bandmates, you know, and it wasn't healthy — not on my side … I relied on them too much … Once I realised that I could engage other people in this [creative] pursuit, it really was a strong draw. I explained this to them, and they've been supportive, which I really appreciate,” he says.
The Shins have always been a James Mercer project, from the minute he holed up in his bedroom and committed the first demos to four-track tape; he writes the songs, he sets the creative direction. The cast of players that records with him and tours with him has shifted over the years, so there wasn't much of a demand to go back to the band and start working again. In the end, ‘Port Of Morrow’ came about because Mercer had drifted far enough away to feel like The Shins was less of a prison and more of a home — something he could change to reflect his newfound openness and the sense of opportunity he had found in the wider music community. As Mercer tells it, the album was born out of a much “happier and healthier” time of his life.
“It's always been about me trying to realise these songs with the people around me, but now the circle of people around me has grown,” he explains. “I have a lot of people around me now who are friendly and talented and I want to engage all of them as a collective to work on and contribute to The Shins' music.
“I'm guessing that me writing all the songs alone is going to change in future; with all the people that I know now and the skill level and taste level that a lot of them have, I could see myself writing songs with a lot of these people — including the guys from The Shins. I'm in a more comfortable world now and I don't want to hold it all to my chest anymore.”
The Shins play Splendour In The Grass at Belongil Fields in Byron Bay, July 27-29. ‘Port Of Morrow’ is out now. splendourinthegrass.com
Band Of Skulls are a band on the up. Following their 2009 debut, ‘Baby Darling Doll Face Honey’, the Southampton trio have found their music used for TV commercials and Hollywood soundtracks, while they’ve toured the world with such luminaries as The Black Keys.
But as singer and guitarist Russell Marsden explains down the phone from Los Angeles, all the hype hasn’t affected the recording of their sophomore album, ‘Sweet Sour’.
“On our first album we didn’t have a big advertising campaign or a big launch or anything like that. We basically just went on tour for two years and a few things happened that introduced us to people that helped us get our music more out there,” he explains casually as he fights the droning noise of the LA traffic outside.
“Recording the second album was a brand new experience for us, which I think most bands will say when they hit this sort of level for the first time. At the time it was very unusual and weird and we had to sort of work hard just to decide what sort of record we wanted to make, but in the end we just made the music how we were feeling at the time and it seems to be the right way to go. It really has become a snapshot of how we felt at that time.”
With the release of ‘Sweet Sour’ in February, Band Of Skulls can expect a lot more time on the road, touring the new material. They’ve just wrapped up a US tour that included playing the massive twin Coachella weekends in the Californian desert alongside the likes of At The Drive-In and Arctic Monkeys.
“We were playing on the Sunday but we got there on the Friday so there was that element of pacing ourselves and not enjoying ourselves too much,” he laughs. “I saw Pulp for the first time, they were one of my favorite English bands from the ‘90s and we got to catch up with The Black Keys who we were on tour with earlier this year and of course I’m sure you heard about the whole Snoop Dogg and Dr. Dre thing. It was so much more than just the 2Pac hologram, in the end with Eminem and 50 Cent coming out as well. It was a total hip hop extravaganza. It’s not the type of music we come too close to, but of course we love all their records and to see it all right there all at once made it feel like a one-off thing, but of course we’re doing it all again this weekend.”
On the subject of festivals, our chat quickly turns to the band’s upcoming appearance at Splendour In The Grass, an event Marsden reveals they’re very much looking forward to playing.
“We hoped the timing of the record this time around would really lend itself to coming back and we had a little inkling that it might, but we just found out as everybody else did that it has just been confirmed so we’re really happy. Last time was so good it’s going to be interesting to see if we can beat it because not only did we get to play Splendour but we also got to play Sydney and Melbourne as well. The audiences there are some of the best we have ever had.”
When it came to the Australian culture, Marsden found our way of life very similar to his British upbringing.
“It was very exciting ... what most Brits will tell you is it’s like a very strange version of home because the culture has all these similarities, but once you have been there for a while you realise it is such a different place.”
With a European tour booked before their Australian jaunt, which will then be followed by an appearance at the UK’s Reading and Leeds festivals, the rest of 2012 is going to be busy for Band Of Skulls.
“We envisioned bigger stages and hopefully bigger audiences as well, and she’s (the record) doing us proud!” he laughs.
Band Of Skulls play Splendour In The Grass, at Belongil Fields in Byron, July 27-29. ‘Sweet Sour’ is out now.
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Three years since her last album, ‘Curiouser’, Kate Miller-Heidke is set to release her third solo effort, ‘Nightflight’.
“Everything I’ve ever done has been a reaction against the previous thing; if ‘Curiouser’ was a playful, dysfunctional adolescent, ‘Nightflight’ is more like a damaged, melancholy person in her late 20s,” Kate says.
The result is a musically vibrant and deeply personal album that reflects the nature of the acoustic sets Kate has been performing for the last couple of years.
“I wanted to make a record that harnessed the power of that, the live show and the dynamics and intimacy of it. I wanted to make something with all real instruments and friends playing across it to give it a personal, honest thing that the last record didn’t have so much,” she says.
Though much of the album was written while Kate was staying in the hustle and bustle of London, she returned to finish it surrounded by the peacefulness of Toowoomba. “It was a contrast, it was like my world shrunk.”
But it’s this quiet town background that brings the story element of her music out, like the haunting tale of ‘Sarah’.
“I guess there are just certain stories that haunt me. I love stories. I’m a reader and that’s what’s a big part of being human; the stories that we tell.”
After three years of touring and performing across Europe, Asia and North America, Kate would have a few stories to tell.
“There’s an opera that I’ve just done in London that left a huge impression on me, I’m still thinking about it.”
Many people in London were thinking about it; ‘The Death Of A Klinghoffer’ was performed at the London Coliseum and Royal Opera House, and received glowing reviews for being ‘musically dazzling’.
While August will see Kate embark on an Australian launch tour, for now she’s got the travel bug and is heading back to the United States.
“We’re going to base it around residencies in New York and LA but I’m sure we’ll end up driving around a lot,” Kate says.
‘Nightflight’ is available now.